Showing posts with label Cuddington Cheshire England. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Cuddington Cheshire England. Show all posts

Monday, August 14, 2017

Mary BIRTWISEL / BIRTWISLE c.1790 - after 1871 - Who Is Her Family?

It is always challenging to find information on women ancestors, particularly so when the family are one of the common folk. Mary BIRTWISEL is one of those examples of a woman who shows up on a marriage register, is listed as "Mary" the wife, on children's baptisms. And that is all there is.

Mary BIRTWISEL is the 4th great-grandmother to my son-in-law, in his Atherton-Perry line. Her marriage record of April 29, 1811 shows her marrying Thomas BOSTOCK in the Weaverham Parish, Chester, England.



I began by trying to find any person with her interesting surname, using spelling variations. I searched through FamilySearch.org, Ancestry.co.uk, and FindMyPast.com. Eventually I found a Sarah Birtwisle's baptism record, July 23, 1758, father's name, Thomas, in Gorstage, scarcely a mile away from Weaverham, in parish of same name. Although the age and location would make it possible Sarah could be Mary's mother, unfortunately, I wasn't able to find a baptism record for Mary. I did find that Sarah had two illegitimate children in the several years before when Mary appears to have been born, but no Mary. There appears to have been only one Birtwisle family in the Weaverham region:
1758: Sarah  Daughter of Thomas Birtwisle of Gorstidge [Gorstage] b. July 23
1785: Betty the Illegitimate Daughr of Sarah Birtwisle of Gorstage b. Apr 6
1788: James Son of Sarah Birtwisle b. Feb 2


The Birtwisel family - or Mary on her own? - would have been living close enough to the Bostock family so she and Thomas could have met. Possibly in the Weaverham church, I was certain. The image on the left is St. Mary, the local Church of England church.

I knew FindMyPast has images of the Diocese of Chester Parish Registers, beginning in 1538, so I began my detailed searches there, through the recorded baptisms. Hours were spent page by page by page by page, keeping a  note of the various villages near where the BOSTOCK family lived: Cuddington, Weaverham, Gorstage, Crowton, and others.

I began back in 1730 working forward hoping to find any Birtwisel/Birtwisle Birtwistle Bertwisle - I had a list of possible spellings, and I found it relatively easy to read the images after peering closely. Some were quite faded, others scrawled messily, but in the main, after all those hours, no positive results.

Looking further afield outside Weaverham, I found a small group of Birtwisle families in Whitegate Parish, about 4 miles south of Weaverham. An Ann Birtwisle had an illegitimate daughter, Mary, March 6, 1791. This date makes it somewhat likely to be the Mary who married Thomas BOSTOCK. Ann went on to marry a Daniel Nickson October 1st, 1799, in Whitegate Parish. Now I question why - if Ann was indeed Mary's mother - why Mary didn't go by her stepfather's surname? But further research finds Ann and Daniel Nickson with several children baptised in the same Whitegate Parish after their marriage. So that appears to indicate the Nickson couple stayed in Whitegate Parish area. So how did Mary Birtwisle meet the Bostock family in Weaverham Parish? Although possible, this research leaves me with more questions than answers.

Thomas BOSTOCK and Mary had 5 children found in the Parish records:
    1.  Elizabeth, b. 7 Jan 1812 Cuddington, bap 9 Feb 1812, buried 19 Jun 1819 in Cuddington [near Weaverham].
    2.  Thomas, bap 12 Jun 1814, died 9 Apr 1819, Weaverham.
    3.  George, [direct ancestor] bap 19 Feb 1817 Cuddington, bur 9 Aug 1870 Cuddington; m. 29 Dec 1841 to Hannah/Ann PICKTON, 8 children.
    4, 5.  fraternal twins: James & Elizabeth, bap 15 Apr 1833 Cuddington

There is clearly a question about the long gap between George and the fraternal twins - 13 years. It is certainly possible that Thomas & Mary BOSTOCK are the same parents who had the previous three children. It is always possible there were other children who died at birth, or the baptism record was  not clear. Certainly, no marriage of a Thomas BOSTOCK and a different Mary after 1817, has been found.

Mary was widowed when her husband died, possibly the Thomas  Bostock buried September 24, 1848. The 1851 Census for Cuddington lists her as "AgLab widow", living with her youngest daughter Elizabeth and husband David Shallcross, with their first child, Ann Shallcross, 6 months old. The marriage registration for David and Elizabeth is dated May 2, 1850, witnessed by a Thomas Bostock, possibly her living father, or another Bostock relative.

In the 1861 Census for Cuddington shows her living on her own, widowed, and it states her birthplace as Sandiway, Weaverham, Cheshire. Note the baby Ann does not show up on the 1861 Census, likely deceased earlier.

Ten years later, aged 85, Mary is found in 1871 Census, in Cuddington, living with her youngest daughter, Elizabeth and husband, David Shallcross. On this 1871 Census, it is stated Mary was born in Gorstage, Cheshire. The village of Gorstage is scarcely a mile away from Weaverham. I do not have Mary's death date, after 1871; it is likely she deceased within 5 years.

Both censuses stating her birthplace near Weaverham, would seem to make it much less likely that the illegitimate daughter Mary, born in 1791 to Ann Birtwisle in Whitegate Parish, is the same Mary Birtwisle who married Thomas BOSTOCK in 1811.

So I am back to my first question:
Where are those parents of Mary Birtwisle, born 1786-1780, in Cheshire? 


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Sunday, November 15, 2015

52 ANCESTORS, 52 THEMES, No.45: Thomas PICKTON & Mary SAVAGE,

This year's challenge by Amy Crow is another weekly blog based on Themes. Last week's theme was "Frightening" and I wrote about another very early settler to New England, Edmund TAPP & wife, Anne.  This week's theme is "Free", in whatever way one wishes to take it.  Fine, I headed over to my son-in-law's family lines, and picked his 3rd greatgrandparents:  Thomas PICKTON & Mary SAVAGE, from Cuddington, Cheshire, England.

Thomas PICKTON & Mary SAVAGE, both born approximately 1791. On the 1851 Census of Cuddington, Thomas lists his birthplace in Weaverham, and Mary lists her birthplace as Frodham Parish, about 7 miles apart.

They were married 6 Aug 1811 in Weaverham as seen on the Marriage Register, as well as in the Bishop's Register for the Diocese. Weaverham's history is detailed and summarized by the Weaverham History Society.  "The Weaverham of 1801 was a sleepy rural Cheshire village where only 1040 people followed largely agricultural employment."   
The church in the village is still standing:  St Mary's Church of England, built early in the 15th Century and added to in following centuries - A Grade 1 listed heritage building.  It has six bells, several from the 1700s, several from the 1800s. The first Parish Registers begin in 1576.  The photograph of this church, found on Wikipedia, is attributed to "Lizzie" from geograph.org.uk,, 11 Jun 2005.

The young PICKTON couple appear to have settled about 2 miles away, in Cuddington, where at least 4 of their children are known to have been born.  There is a 5 year gap between the first and second child; I could not find another birth for this couple in those years. 
  1. Mary, bap 30 May 1813; m. 1849 to William Podmore in Whitegate, Cheshire
  2. Elizabeth, bap 12 Jul 1818
  3. Hannah/Ann [ancestor],  bap 11 Feb 1821 Cuddington; m. abt 1841 to George BOSTOCK; 7 children [all boys]; husband George d. 1870 Aug 9.
  4. Thomas, bap 8 Jun 1823, poss. burial reg, 1861 1st Quarter, Weaverham Cheshire. [aged 37]
  5. Sarah, abt 1826 [est by age on 1841 Census]
  6. Ellen, bap 14 Feb 1830  [listed as Helen on 1851 Census]
Thomas's occupation was Farmer on both the 1841 and 1851 Censuses for Cuddington. On the 1851 Census, it states "Farmer of 9 acres." They do not seem to be listed on a 1861 Census for Cheshire. 

I have not yet firmly identified a burial or death for either Thomas or Mary. There is a possible death register date of Sep 1853, and burial register place in the region, but not proven to be this Thomas. My to-do research list includes searching for more information on Hannah's siblings, and additional details on both Thomas' and Mary's families, likely both in Cheshire,  With such common first names, this could be somewhat challenging. 

If you know anything about Thomas PICTON & Mary SAVAGE, I would be so pleased for more details. Contact me at my address at the bottom of the page, or in the Comments section.

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